@ vidiot.. thanks, will take a look at that link in a few days (I can only take so much anger at borg antics, so will wait until my current episode fizzles out)
@ FayeDunaway, re: 'juices' ..... Absolutely priceless, lol x 1000
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Name Things You Can't Do If You Are JW...or not supposed to do
by minimus inwitnesses are not supposed to stand for the national anthem but can stand for a flag salute.. you can't say bless you if someone sneezes, good luck!, or " you too" if someone says, happy holidays.. it is a religion of cannot dos.
everything is pagan and worldly.. what are things that are unacceptable to jehovah's witnesses that really are no big deal to everyone else?
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Name Things You Can't Do If You Are JW...or not supposed to do
by minimus inwitnesses are not supposed to stand for the national anthem but can stand for a flag salute.. you can't say bless you if someone sneezes, good luck!, or " you too" if someone says, happy holidays.. it is a religion of cannot dos.
everything is pagan and worldly.. what are things that are unacceptable to jehovah's witnesses that really are no big deal to everyone else?
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Dissillusioned2, very good point..
had a conversation this morning with my colleagues, a doctor and 2 nurses about what JW's 'don't do'... The doctor said that he knew about the witnesses and no blood stance.. and he knew a bit about the no eating blood which I explained further; then he said..
Oh!, do Jehovah's Witnesses eat only 'Halal or Kosher' meat? KABOOM!
he hit the nail right on the head and I said 'you got it right mate, my ex circle of JW friends NEVER ate hallal'.... that doctor used critical thinking in a split second and I loved it... I was around the truth for 30 years and never thought of something so simple...
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The Heartless JW
by babygirl30 insoooo...i have recently been diagnosed with an autoimmune disease, and am scared out of my mind.
in a weak moment, i called my parents and my mom answered.
i start crying as i tell her about my disease, and this woman says to me:.
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FayDunaway...
wow... that was devastatingly beautiful logic.... of course, the Samaritans were despised by the Jews who obviously felt they would be currupting themselves but associating in anyway with Samaritans... But what was Jesus teaching with that story?
"screw your religious doctrin, the guy's bloody sick, help him, it's f***ing human" (I'm using artistic license here, but you get the point)
Stuff like this convinces me that JW's aren't really following the bible....
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New light from GB member David Splane!
by Island Man inin the latest jw broadcast splane is quoted as saying:.
"suppose there was a man who died 10 minutes before joseph was born.
would he be part of joseph's generation?
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Prologos....
wow this is getting longer and longer... so technically the big 'A' that should be 'just around the corner could be technically 2214 if we're counting from 1914, or is it 1919...
I'm now totally lost
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New light from GB member David Splane!
by Island Man inin the latest jw broadcast splane is quoted as saying:.
"suppose there was a man who died 10 minutes before joseph was born.
would he be part of joseph's generation?
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@The Listener, I was sort of responding to the 'nitpicking' comment (I might have misinterpreted that comment though), as Mr Splane did seem to be being very specific himself... and yeah that's definitely minute detail there... how on earth did he extract that precise idea from the scriptures? it seems to appear that anybody who looks up a few scriptures and thinks about them in the context of what Mr Splane is saying will realise he's taking liberties... -
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New light from GB member David Splane!
by Island Man inin the latest jw broadcast splane is quoted as saying:.
"suppose there was a man who died 10 minutes before joseph was born.
would he be part of joseph's generation?
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I wonder if he might not have meant a 'grown up adult living a full life'.. I think he meant 'just being alive', otherwise why would he talk about someone being born only 10 minutes 'after' Joseph's death?... isn't he implying that if that person was born 11 minutes earlier, they 'would have' been part of Joseph's generation? that person wouldn't have to be a grown adult to be part of Joseph's generation by Mr Splane's reasoning, just a few minutes old... -
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New light from GB member David Splane!
by Island Man inin the latest jw broadcast splane is quoted as saying:.
"suppose there was a man who died 10 minutes before joseph was born.
would he be part of joseph's generation?
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Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel...
does the term 'Joseph's Generation' mean that 'the generation' actually 'belonged to Joseph'? and what if Joseph had only lived as a child and died at 5 years old, would that mean that a generation can be only 5 years long? Also is he saying that if joseph lived to 100 and a person was born 0.5 seconds before Joseph died, then that person was part of Joseph's generation and so, if THAT person lived to 100, a generation would be 200 years? and since when does someone, when talking about their generation actaully expect anyone to think they could mean up to 200 years?... I mean, my parents are in their 70's now, so when I speak of my parents' generation would you really think I'm talking about people going back as far as perhaps more than 70 years before their birth, because people older than 70 when my parents were born were part of their generation? That would mean that people who lived perhaps before 1875 are part of my parents' generation? what if someone was 100 years old and still alive when my parents were born? 1845? So we're in the same generation as people living in 1845? come on.. is that what Jesus really meant by THIS GENERATION? I mean, how long was the generation Jesus spoke about in the first century? and why would he tell them to 'keep awake' if he meant 150+ years by a generation?....
this is the problem I have with these ideas, upon questioning them so many more questions come up... of course the G.O.D have an answer for everything and would be able to wriggle their way out of any apparent holes in the reasoning..
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Ministry on a day off?
by dothemath inmonday is a holiday.......so a super zealous brother asks me....."are you going out in service then?.
absolutely the last thing i would want to do!.
if i do go again ever, i think my presentation should be " i'm so sorry for ever bothering you with the absolute crap we're handing out.
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Had a dream about a week ago where I was in the 'truth' and was due to go on the ministry, and started thinking 'how the hell am I going to speak to these people knowing I don't believe any of it'? so I started thinking about how to be brutally honest on the doors and I was thinking to say things along similar lines as you dothemath...
No more FS ever... yeeeehaaaa!
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by bigmac ini'm quite new to this site, & have realised some members have a union jack symbol under their avatar.
i don't.. could we have a "show of hands" from any uk members?
i've already found several by reading older posts..
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Education is 'HARD', first test after 27 years
by The Marvster inwell, in an effort to completely rebel against all things 'watchtower', i decided that since i gave all my years since leaving school to the borg, and listened to their admonition to avoid 'higher education' i have just started... right from bottom.... today i took a 2 hour maths test to see if i would be eligible to go on a course to re-take my gcse maths exam (this is the qualification you study for here in england in the last 2 years of compulsory schooling from ages 14-16).
back in may 1988 i did no revision, and didn't study hence a complete flop of all exams.... and seeing that 'education' wasn't on the agenda back then, and has always been warned against, (unless it was perhaps trade oriented) it was wiped from my mind... yep a jw mind-wipe occurred here, i've decided to go back to school, just for the challenge of it, f**k the org, i might have wasted decades swallowing their philosophy, but i don't have to let that past control me now... the test was 'really' hard going... and i don't think i passed, but can still get on a more basic course to start me off if i don't get on the main course.... the tutors were so warm and enthusiastic about me taking up the study at aged 43, it was so nice to hear someone get excited that i'm going to study (never in 29 years with the borg) .
i've also learned something else; jw's talk about the 'highest education' that the watchtower supposedly teaches... bullshit, that 'call and response' crap that you do in watchtower study and other meetings, that parroting, has got to be the lowest form of education there is, you don't use your brain, you don't have to analyse or think or deduce or calculate, or use savvy... it's just call and response, and nothing more, pure repetition, answer what's in the paragraph.
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I can't thank you all enough for the great examples, personal stories and advice.. AK, FTB, Diogenesister, and the rest of you thankyou thank you..
Diogenesister, I was considering OU because I speak a second language, was in the foreign language field for 15 years, so am, well, almost fluent, so getting a qualification in the language is a very possible future consideration...